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January 23, 2006

Jamie Foxx

So I got the following in the mail off the Kwaku Network. For those of you who don't know, the Kwaku Network is the spontaneous unofficial underground communications network for blackfolks on the email. Don't say I told you so, because it doesn't really exist. Smile and wave boys, smile and wave.

NBC is not doing any marketing & publicity on Jamie's Music Special on NBC because he stood his ground and didn't have any white guest (performers) to perform with as they requested. To make it even worse he had two controversial guest stars that do not fit the "NBC profile" on his show. Tune in to find out who they are. They are purposely putting his show up against the second week of American Idol in hopes that it will fail. This will give them the excuse to never give another black person a music special because "it doesn't work". Let's show them that it does work, and that we support each other. Tivo Idol, and watch Jamie. I saw the taping, it is a good show.

J Foxx making history on NBC. This is the first time NBC has ever aired an entire young urban African American cast on music special. We need to show support. This was not an easy sell for Jamie and he stood his ground to make it happen the way he saw fit.

PST on NBC. PLEASE MAKE IT A POINT WATCH! There will be surprise special

For what it's worth I have only been impressed with Jamie Foxx in one dimension, which is that he can sing. He's only done one movie role that I thought was worthwhile and that was in "On Any Sunday". It should be said that I didn't see 'Ray', so what do I know. But Collateral didn't impress me at all. All he did was play an ordinary scared guy, which must... well, let me not get into it BUT, I would say that the only thing special about Foxx's work in Collateral was that he defied the trend of vulgar hiphop idiocy we have come to expect from entertainers of his age and hue. But it appears that he intends to make up for that on Wednesday.

Call me Danny Glover, but I'm getting too old for this shit. Jamie Foxx isn't making history, he's making noise, which on a good day might be called entertainment. Why oh why did I ever stop being a snob?

Posted by mbowen at January 23, 2006 04:30 PM

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You're not missing anything in Ray.... I was disappointed. I only saw it a couple of weeks ago, after all the hype and Oscar buzz, I really thought it would be better, but I should have known....

Posted by: Caltechgirl [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 07:44 PM

I just deleted yet another instance of that email. Between those and the ones of outrage behind NBC's alleged attempts to sabotage Jamie's show (supposedly because he isn't having any white guests), I'm just plain irritated. With all that is going on in the world, it just slays me that so much energy is being put into something like this.

I still haven't seen Ray. I still see "Wanda" from In Living Color when I look at Jamie so I really can't get into this idolization of him. Yes, he can sing but from what I've heard, his entire album is full of "I'm gonna do you, baby" songs ... which gets pretty old.

More than likely, I'll be watching American Idol instead of his show.

Posted by: Qusan at January 23, 2006 09:13 PM

Fox is pure ghetto and I can only imagine what his "special" will be like. Of course, "urbane" is the buzz word for "Thug Culture" these days -- guys with microphones screaming about how bad they are as they grab their crotch; black girls in blonde wigs dressed like hookers rapping about how much they love having freaky sex with their baby's FAFA.

Real uplifting material like that. That's what we can look forward to from Jaime Fox.


Posted by: ricland at January 23, 2006 11:55 PM

If you aren't impressed by the story of 'Ray,' you may be impressed with how well Jamie mimicked Ray's mannerisms.

Posted by: brotherbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2006 04:58 PM

As black people we are not strong enough in this society to not be supporting each other by hating on each other. Jamie Foxx is a black man acting like a black man dealing with black issues so support him.

Posted by: kg at January 25, 2006 10:46 AM

Excuse me but I don't think anybody with a black college education from black professors with PhDs is ever going to take Jamie Foxx as a role model. I understand not every black person is up to that level, but hey. You already know which side of the Cosby line I'm on. Piss on Jamie Foxx.

Posted by: Cobb [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2006 11:02 AM

It seems to me I detect a bit of "hatin." If for no other reason to watch the show or even just turn it on and leave the room is the principle. NBC is trying to sabotage him. He ain't asking you to sleep with him, just back him up on this one.

Posted by: sef at January 25, 2006 07:31 PM

I'm telling you I have no reason to believe that the Jamie Foxx show is going to be interesting, no matter how well or poorly he's screwed up his relationship with his boss, NBC.

It's not like I'm not going to hear people talk about it. We'll all find out who the mystery guest is.

Here's where I put my money where my mouth is. My nickel says Jamie Foxx will never match the talent making potential of Keenan Ivory Wayans in his variety showcase. I don't think he'll even come close. At best, I suspect he'll do about a third as well as Chris Rock, and maybe a little bit better than The Orlando Jones Show.

Why do I say all that? Because I have watched Jamie Foxx for 15 goddamned years since Living Color like everybody else. I know all about his potential and I discount it completely. He's not impressive. I say give the gig to Tommy Davidson or David Alan Grier.

I understand that there are people in this world who believe that people like Larenz Tate amd Bill Bellamy are talented. Them ain't my people. There are far, far too many talented black entertainers in this country for me to worry about the likes of Jamie Foxx. Please. This ain't hate - it's dismissal.

Posted by: Cobb [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2006 09:39 PM

To everyone who is hating on Jaime Fox.
Do you realize how stupid you all sound?

I wish the hating would stop. And for Caltech girl.... I hope you did watch American Idol, that way you would have missed out on the best musical program this year. As for the whole deal about no white acts on his show. SO WHAT. I watch plenty of programs that continue to be desolate of black actors and entertainers. Why do AAs' always has to be the only group to conform. And to COBB, man, thanks for the heads up but you need to go see Ray and stop tripping.
YOU ALL JUST MAKE ME SICK TO MY STOMACH. Ignorance continues to stay bliss in America.

Posted by: Cincinnati Coleman at January 26, 2006 05:54 AM

That Jamie Foxx special was as I expected "Amazing". Jamie Foxx is one of those talent that will last a life time. I saw Jamie Foxx about 15 years ago in Oakland CA at the New Years comedy show where he was the MC, I don't even remember the comedians Jamie cam out on a moving piano and played the Peanuts theme and it was all over. As far as NBC is "WE" would stick together and get the word out like the many emails and phone calls I received about this show we would not have to worry about the information NBC is allowing, we could control what we require from them.

Posted by: Disciplined at January 26, 2006 06:11 AM

Jamie foxx is a very talentive person and I love Jamie. He different and I dig that a lot. He is a person who can do just about anything thing. I have to give him his props because he is doing it real big. I HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. Jamie foxx is a southern well grounded man. He is the guy I have alweay's loved from the start. Jamie U are doing your thing and that's what's up. I feel you deserve that and so much more. Your album is hot J. MaKE IT DO WHAT IT DO.....

Posted by: SHA at January 26, 2006 06:26 AM

Jamie foxx is a very talentive person and I love Jamie. He'S different and I dig that a lot. He is a person who can do just about anything thing. I have to give him his props because he is doing it real big. I HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. Jamie foxx is a southern well grounded man. He is the guy I have alweay's loved from the start. Jamie U are doing your thing and that's what's up. I feel you deserve that and so much more. Your album is hot J. MaKE IT DO WHAT IT DO.....

Posted by: SHA at January 26, 2006 06:26 AM

I am a hugh fan of Jamie Foxx and last nights show was great. It was very tasteful and personal. Job well done Jamie!!!!

Posted by: Dee at January 26, 2006 06:27 AM

I think you all need a little Jesus!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: MP at January 26, 2006 07:31 AM

I think that Jamie Foxx is a great talent. He can act, sing and do comedy. He is muli-talented like so many of my black brothers and sisters and I give him his props. His was show was awesome and the last song that he performed brought tears to my eyes. So all you Jamie Foxx haters stick in in your ear. I look forward to seeing his show again.

Posted by: JOYCE DANIEL at January 26, 2006 09:22 AM

I am completly in awe to see that still today we as a people can have so much "hatin" in our heart for one of our own. Jamie Foxx is a positive entertainer that I think we all should be proud of. Why continue to hate when we really should give him the credit where it is due!!!

Posted by: kbburg at January 26, 2006 09:28 AM

Jamie Foxx is so talented, ppl just give him credit. Look at all the things that were against him and he still made it. I had his first album and his new album and both was remarkable. He is so creative and puts what has been missing back in r&b, you will always have ppl with negative remarks, that need to know his background and history before they talk b/c he is a multi-talented black male (watch the opray show, driven, and the nbc special) and your mind will change

Posted by: JUSTIN JONES at January 26, 2006 09:54 AM

It saddens me to hear all the negative comments other "AFRICAN AMERICANS" are making against this man. It is a shame that we cannot support one another. Let's try to me a little more positive it won't kill you, and contrary to what a lot of people are saying Jamie Foxx did an excellent job in "RAY". DON'T HATE. LOVE.

Posted by: Tasha at January 26, 2006 10:20 AM

I thought the show was excellent!

Posted by: reddog at January 26, 2006 11:14 AM

WOW! First I have to say that after reading the comments I could sense that all the negative words came from people that are not happy with themselves. If you had a chance to, hmmm...come from being a co-star on a variety show, have your own sitcom (which is in syndication on more then one network), star in several movies, be given the staring role of one of the greatest musical figures ever by that great musical figure, and win an Oscar for it. Damn it let the brother shine! There might be greater comedians, singers, and actors out there but it's Jaime's time to shine. If it was you, you would want the love too so lets stop the hate and congratulate.

Posted by: RealBro at January 26, 2006 12:06 PM

WOW! First I have to say that after reading the comments I could sense that all the negative words came from people that are not happy with themselves. If you had a chance to, hmmm...come from being a co-star on a variety show, have your own sitcom (which is in syndication on more then one network), star in several movies, be given the staring role of one of the greatest musical figures ever by that great musical figure, and win an Oscar for it. Damn it let the brother shine! There might be greater comedians, singers, and actors out there but it's Jaime's time to shine. If it was you, you would want the love too so lets stop the hate and congratulate.

Posted by: RealBro at January 26, 2006 12:07 PM

I would first like to tell you that the show was outstanding. For those you who did not see this show -- you missed something truly special. His songs were about everything - not just doing someone. There was a very special sound about his daughter (little angel)that I related to my newly born granddaughter. Yes I am a grandmother. And for all of the young people who have not had a chance to listen to the complete cd - you don't know what you are missing. (I am 50 years old and I enjoyed it completely).

Posted by: Chandra at January 26, 2006 12:26 PM

the show was hottttt!!!!!!!!
get off jamie is blowing up.............

Posted by: nickie at January 26, 2006 12:27 PM

Jamie's show lastnight made me and most I'm sure see him in a different light. I'm not saying it's a new light but it was amazing to see him express himself and show his wonderful talents; his love for his daughter and grandmother. Oh and definitely his televised display of love for the ladies (TEACH JAMIE!...old school coming back?! Mad props) The entire show proved to be special and for all of those ppl (AA's & non-AA's) who thought something different(negative), shame on you for judging/hating. Jamie is a beautiful brother and person & he definitely proved that once again last night. For those who thought differently maybe it's good you didn't watch it; maybe you didn't need to see goodness; maybe you should just remain bitter/jealous/and unhappy with yourselves (regrettably) a little bit longer. And if you did watch it, then good for YOU...we learn something new everyday! Jamie doesn't need negative support as much as he already has the positive support from lots of others. peacenluv...smiles

Posted by: Camille at January 26, 2006 02:54 PM

Wow, Cobb, you must have an awful lot of lurkers who have read your thoughtful posts about religion and politics and have never been inspired to say anything before now. I suppose this is the first thing they've found to disagree with.

Posted by: Laura(southernxyl) at January 26, 2006 03:58 PM


Posted by: Cobb [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 04:48 PM

Wow, I can not believe what I am reading. I now see why blacks are not progressive as a race. Whether you like Jamie Foxx or not, reviewing last night's show was about principle. There are plenty of All white shows. Remember Seinfield? Did they have a black character, what about Friends, there is even an example on NBC-Will and Grace? So why was NBC against an all black program? It's probably because all white anything is normalized in our society, so programs as such go unnoticed. Folks don't realize blacks have to start somewhere and last night was another stepping stone for blacks in entertainment.

I know your thinking "Stepping stone? Blacks have there own Network(BET), for crying out loud, stop whinning," well,thats one network out of a constantly increasing amount(what are we up to, 1000 channels now?), not to mention its no longer black owned.

Minstrel shows (blacks performing in black face(exaggerated buffoon characters))were horrible, but that was Thee stepping stone that allowed blacks to have airtime today. We Hated it and I am sure those folks felt awful doing it, but if they could, they would be turning in there graves w/ excitement for how far blacks have come in television. And Jamie Foxx's fight with NBC to do something other then act like a stereotypical character, proves blacks still have a long way to go.

So all this negative commentary of not supporting Jamie because "I want to pigeonhole him as a comedian, preferably Wanda(I liked him so much more when he was acting like a buffoon)" or "All his movies suck" (even though you have not seen them all)! or "Oscar, for what?"(He was given an Oscar because when you watched the renactment of Ray Charles life, you thought u were watching Ray Charles!!) or "his music...it all sounds the same," (yeah, its called a genre, its what makes his music his and not anyone elses...an about the lyrics...aren't all songs about love...or hate, (but I guess a hater would prefer hateful music...nice collections like "Im a Bitch" by Alanis Morsette or "Im an Asshole" by Dennis Leary, maybe?)) Finally, "Jamie Foxx is not a role model for PhD's" (First and foremost People are multi-dimentional chacters, what one possess another may not, So guess what?? Doctor's and other PhD's CAN look up to Jamie Foxx, did you forget, alot of those folks have no social confidence!! Maybe Jamie helps them deal with the opposite sex, ever think of that? and another thing role models are everywhere,positive or negative,Doctor's and other PhD's included.

So, tuning into Foxx's Program was not just tuning into Foxx to enjoy or discredit the artist, it was a silent movement, but alot people dont understand that because alot of folks havent moved since they moved in closer to the television to WATCHED their grandparents move in the 60ties.

Posted by: keewii at January 26, 2006 06:47 PM

It is interesting that the opinions of his talent and his movies to date are being given applause and criticism from a wide range of black people? Let us all remember that it is your opinion and that support or non-support is your way of backing-up your thoughts. However, when supporting or choosing not to support at least say you have seen his work?

Posted by: ROGER at January 27, 2006 02:49 AM

The reason 'blacks are not progressing as a race' is because races don't progress, individuals, families, and classes do.

There is nothing to be gained by 'supporting' Jamie Foxx, and none of you here is really interested in following up doing anything truly political about it. It's all sentimental hogwash that doesn't translate into anything of significant benefit to the black masses. It's entertainment, people. I feel like Aaron McGruder's version of MLK. WAKE UP!

That said, I think it would be a very cool idea for some brothers to get together and do a group blog reviewing movies on the web. As far as I know, nothing of that sort exists, although I know there are some black women who do that.

Let me say something else here. I appreciate all of the comments, positive or negative. It's always useful when people speak up, and I don't mind at all being odd out the bunch. But when all is said and done, it takes a grownup to put in a real name and a real email address. So I find it more than a little bit ironic that somebody who talks big about what black people ought to do for each other can't sign their own name to it. Where I come from that's called woofin' out the side of your neck.

Posted by: Cobb [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 27, 2006 09:59 AM

Jamie Foxx is very talented which is why we are even having this conversation. His diverse talents - musical, dramatic, and comical, as well intellectual-were showcased in his special. It was so amazing that an Encore Presentation had to be aired on Friday night.

If you noticed, his audience was majority of white people because black people are still waiting on "Massa" to say it is okay for the "House Niggas" to mingle with the "Field Niggas".

Give this Black man has props. He has become a legend in his own time. As for his movies, I have enjoyed all of them −Toys (1992) , The Great White Hype (1996), Booty Call (1997), The Players Club (1998) , Held Up (1999) Any Given Sunday (1999), Bait (2000), Ali (2001), Shade (2003), Redemption: The Stan Tookie Williams Story (2004), Breakin' All the Rules (2004), and Collateral (2004) to name a few. Ray (2004) was phenomenon.
Jamie Foxx is a true Entertainer!!!!

Posted by: Sandra DC at January 27, 2006 11:55 PM

All of these comments are absolutely hysterical and as someone said, where were these people on the politcal issues and issues concerning their bottom line? That email was an urban legend along the lines of the KKK owning Church's Chicken. I knew it was bogus from day one yet it was in my inbox, ad naseum, for days! A network won't sabotage a show, they will PULL IT if they don't want it on.

Yeah, The Boondocks MLK episode was right. Er'body worried about the booty shakin' before the things that affect how they eat and live.

Posted by: Qusan at January 28, 2006 12:09 AM

Well,Well,Well will you just look at all of these dead beats down playing this great hard working black man, because he's making his money the hard way.Jamie Foxx have done what he had to do to get where he is today. This man did not make a CD talking about sell drug, ass shaking,nor having sex with women in a bad or disrespectful way.He made a CD that almost everyone can relate to in some way or another, and as for caltechgirl the reason why you was disappointed about the Ray movie is because you are a narrow minded person who don't know anything about great movies.You wnat to see a movie that had a lot of killing and other bad things in it.GET A REAL LIFE.Qusan you stated that when you look at Jamie Foxx you still see wanda. Well maybe your not looking at Jamie your looking at yourself, and maybe the reason why you feel that you can not get into this idolization is because you know in your heart that no matter how hard you try you could nor never be as good as the Foxx.How can you Dis the man album when you haven't ever heard it.Nobody care if you watch American Idol and not watch the Jamie Foxx special because for what we have heard you will much rather watch people who you can relate to more, and they are the people who have not yet made it and might not make it. So the saying is true birds with feathers flock together.Ricland who are you to call this man ghetto.O I forgot the Truth know the Truth so I see where you can get off call him ghetto.When you get a real job and have made something of yourself then you will understand where Jamie is coming from.People who call other people names only do so to make themselves feel good about themselves, so if you call Jamie ghetto then you must be doing bad yourself.Cobb did you make that comment about no black person with an education will ever take Jamie for a role model while you was doing drugs.Most black people who have an education earned that education it was not given to them, and I say that because when anyone have their mind and their heart set on getting a college education they do it because they want to they didn't need a role model.The only true role model they did have was God.I think that anybody who is trying to make it in the music business will do just fine if they do chose Jamie to be their role model.If you know anything about sucess you would know that it do not come easy,and Jamie first time trying to make it in the music business he failed, but that did not stop him from taking the time out to think about how he was going to get the sucess his heart truly desired,so he got back up and tried again and this time he did not fail.If that's not a good role model then who is. Jamie showed many people that things don't always go right the first time just because you want it to, but that do not mean that it's not for you it only mean that you will just have to try even harder the next time around until you get it right.So don't so piss on Jamie let's say piss on you for wanting people to piss on Jamie.Don't try to hold that man down he have earn what he got.Always remember that Jamie is not the only person who is trying to make it I'm sure you will one day want to move a little higher on the work chain and you will need the support of other to maybe get you there so just be careful about what you say about other people because one day you may be in his shoes.Look I'm not a bad person. I said all of the things I said to prove a point.I don't know any of you and you may feel like what I said about you was not right,but just think about it what I did to you you did to Jamie Foxx and that was not fair.If someone is doing something good it's not right for people like you to try and take that away from them. If you don't like him don't watch him or listen to his music, but please don't talk bad about him. Jamie Haven't done anything to you people.

And that's real talk.

Posted by: Wendy at January 28, 2006 09:26 PM

I have read all the emails and I can't believe that people in this society still can't get a clue. Jamie Foxx is a real legend within himself regardless of what you "stuck in the past" people have to say. This man has come from nothing, used his talent and going where you all only wish you could go. At times I am so ashamed that people like me are fighting a war everyday so that people like you all can continue to try to keep the world in the past. Jamie continue to do accomplish your goals baby. As long as you continue to keep the man above #1 these "stuck in the past" people can't do nothing to stop you.

Posted by: Mommy at January 31, 2006 12:45 AM

I love the fact that Jamie Foxx named the female character on the Jamie Foxx Show Fancy! My real name is Fanci and it cracks me up when I watch it...the first time I heard her name I almost fell over. Thanks Jamie!

Posted by: Fanci at February 2, 2006 12:34 PM